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Tuesday, January 28, 2014

[Three Cents Worth NY #241] Brooklyn Prices Closing Gap With Manhattan

It’s time to share my Three Cents Worth (3CW) on Curbed NY, at the intersection of neighborhood and real estate in the capital of the world…and I’m here to take measurements.

Check out my 3CW column on @CurbedNY:

After last week’s release of our rental report for Manhattan and Brooklyn and with all the talk about the gap between the boroughs closing, I thought I’d revisit the topic and add the sales market to the rental mix…

As an added bonuses, notice all the troll commentary in this post. I’m noticing there is more of this as the market rises.

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My latest Three Cents Worth column on Curbed: Brooklyn Prices Closing Gap With Manhattan [Curbed]

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Wednesday, October 30, 2013

Tuesday, August 13, 2013

[Three Cents Worth NY #237] Manhattan Prices ‘n Rates Don’t Jibe

Posted by Jonathan Miller - Thursday, July 11, 2013, 10:45 PM

It’s time to share my Three Cents Worth (3CW) on Curbed NY, at the intersection of neighborhood and real estate in the capital of the world…and I’m here to take measurements.

Check out my 3CW column on @CurbedNY:

Mortgage rates are rising and that’s probably a good long-term thing for the housing market in NYC and nationwide. One of the biggest misunderstandings about the market is the correlation between mortgage interest rate and price trends—sometimes I’ll get caught up in it myself. The logic follows that rising mortgage rates will leave less room for principal in the monthly housing payment and then prices fall. Makes sense logically if you don’t factor in access to credit. In the short term, changes in mortgage rates may have some knee jerk impact on prices—we often see demand surges with sudden rate changes—but over the long term it’s hard to pin down the cause and effect relationship between rates and prices using actual data. It’s never been successfully correlated to my knowledge…


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My latest Three Cents Worth column on Curbed: Manhattan Prices ‘n Rates Don’t Jibe [Curbed]
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Wednesday, May 29, 2013

Saturday, March 16, 2013

Home Prices Soar on Short Supply, Investor Demand

Home prices in Atlanta were up 10 percent in December from a year ago, but a year ago they were down 17 percent year-over-year, on the S&P/Case Shiller Index. What changed? Investors. As Atlanta's foreclosure rate soared, investors, no longer finding the big bargains out West, began moving into Atlanta and snatching up distressed properties at a brisk pace.

"Market prices have to go higher to provide incentives for more new houses to be built," said Aaron Edelheit, CEO of Atlanta-based The American Home, a company that invests in distressed properties and turns them into rentals. "I believe we are on the cusp of a massive housing shortage in many parts of the country due to the historic lack of residential investment in the last five years. This summer, I expect the housing market to be 'blue flame' hot."

(Read More: What Tops Home Buyers' Wish List Now)

Prices today are rising fast because supplies of homes for sale are so low. Both new and existing homes are running near four month supplies.

For new homes, builders just aren't able to start fast enough, due to labor and land restraints.

For existing homes, there are fewer distressed properties for sale, a segment that has driven the market into recovery, and organic homeowners are either unwilling to list their homes for fear of selling at the bottom, or unable to list because they are still underwater on their mortgages.

(Read More: Foreclosures Fall Due to New Laws)

"Taking new and existing homes together, the relationship between the months' supply of unsold homes and house prices points to an acceleration in the pace of house prices gains in the year ahead," said Paul Diggle of Capital Economics.


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Tuesday, February 5, 2013

US Home Prices Surge Despite Distress

"We still have a long way to go to return to 2005-2006 levels, but all signals currently point to a progressive stabilization of the housing market and the positive trend in home price appreciation to continue into 2013."

Anand Nallathambi

CoreLogic

Just six states, Delaware, Illinois, Connecticut, New Jersey, Rhode Island and Alabama saw annual price depreciation. New Jersey still has a huge backlog of distressed properties, as does Illinois. Arizona, Nevada and California are seeing big home price gains, as investors there continue to inhale properties to take advantage of the very lucrative rental market. Still, even excluding distressed sales, Nevada saw a 12 percent jump in home prices.

(Read More: When Banks Walk Away, Homeowners Don't Always Win)

There are, however, still looming headwinds to home prices, as banks ramp up foreclosures especially in states that require these cases to go before a judge. That new inventory could slow price gains in those states. Inventory, or lack thereof, is the primary driver of much of these gains. There were just 2.03 million homes for sale in November, according to the National Association of Realtors, a 23 percent drop from November of 2011 and the lowest supply since September of 2005.

Some are concerned that low inventory and not increased demand is juicing prices faster than is healthy for the housing recovery. If prices start to outpace earnings and employment growth, and then more properties hit the market this Spring, these gains could take a U-turn.

(Read More: One Overlooked Fact About the Housing Recovery)


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Monday, January 7, 2013

Yes, Mortgage Rates Impact Housing Prices

Posted by Jonathan Miller - Wednesday, December 26, 2012, 4:50 PM

I few weeks ago I was dressed down by an analytics friend of mine who is in the business. Based on his employment and housing sales analysis in Alabama (I’ve never been) he suggested my comments about mortgage rates influencing housing prices as anecdotal and hypocritical (who says analysts have to have tact) – that only employment can be correlated. And further…since mortgage rates can not be proved to influence housing sales through multiple regression, any such claims are hearsay and anecdotal. While I agree that housing’s largest influence comes from employment, I was a bit surprised by the out-of-left-field agita I inspired.

He was focused on the predictive element of a trend versus a knee jerk reaction to a sudden change in a metric. My comment about a spike in mortgage rates at this moment (not predicting it) as ending the party – is apparently what caused him to lose faith in my analysis. Appreciative of the constructive feedback, I whipped up a couple of US macro price charts.

Yes, US employment trends correlate with US housing prices and mortgage rates correlate by showing an inverse trend against housing prices.

Predictive? Only if considered with other metrics.
Anecdotal? Hardly.






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Tuesday, June 12, 2012

Huge Spike in Home Prices Is Not Real

The median price of an existing home that sold in April of this year was $177,400, an increase of just over ten percent from a year ago. That is the biggest price jump since January of 2006. The difference between now and then, though, is the 2006 price jump was real, this latest spike is not.

Housing market increasesAltrendo Images | Getty Images“This is a mix of home issue,” warned National Association of Realtors chief economist Lawrence Yun, who usually tries to see the positives in all housing numbers. “There is an acute inventory shortage in Phoenix, Las Vegas, Ft. Myers,” Yun explains.

As we reported here on the Realty Check last month, a lack of distressed supply, that is foreclosures and short sales, is pushing overall home sales lower. That’s because the majority of the sales action for the past few years has been on the low end of the market.

Now, as banks try to modify more delinquent loans to comply with the recent $25 billion mortgage servicing settlement, and as investors rush in to buy distressed properties and take advantage of the hot rental market, the distressed market is drying up.

The share of home sales in the $0-250,000 price range made up over 73 percent of all sales in February; that has already dropped to 67 percent in April.

If you look at sales by price category, you see the most startling evidence of this shift in what’s selling on the low end out west. Sales of homes $0-100,000 dropped over 26 percent out west in April, but rose 21 percent in the $250-500,000 price range. The national numbers tell the same story.

  % Change in Sales from 1 Year AgoSource: National Association of RealtorsSo what does this say about where we really are in terms of home prices nationally? The Realtors still expect overall home prices to rise just 2-3 percent in 2012, which is one of the more bullish predictions. If the banks start releasing more properties onto the market or push more delinquent loans to foreclosure, overall home prices will come down again.

The lesson to take from this report is that all home price changes now are more local and more price-range specific than ever. The jump in sales of higher priced homes is a good sign, as some had predicted that when the distress dried up, there would be no sales.

But overall inventories of homes for sale, while up for the month, are still way down from a year ago, and that means sellers are still wary of this market. Confidence and credit will be key going forward.

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Monday, June 11, 2012

Home Prices Hit Lows, but ‘We See Signs of Hope’

All three “headline composites” of the latest and widely watched S&P/Case Shiller home price indices ended the first quarter of 2012 at new post-crisis lows. Vegas Homes

But one of the authors of the indices, Robert Shiller, told CNBC Tuesday: “We have encouraging signs in the market, we are seeing some signs of hope.”

His cohort, S&P’s David Blitzer, agreed. “Digging into the details, it’s a whole lot better than the headlines,” he said in the same interview.

Finally, index co-author Karl Case explained: “We lag, and the indicators for the last three, four months on the quantity side have been real positive, so we look like a bottom. You have to pick to find real negatives.”

So why are they optimistic?

Markets like Phoenix and Las Vegas are coming back—Phoenix in home prices, and believe it or not, Vegas in construction.

But just because they are coming back from extreme lows does not mean that we’re going to see huge price appreciations any time soon. This is just the second-straight month that we’ve seen monthly price appreciation (seasonally adjusted) on the indices, and it’s very slight, under one percent.

“Transaction volumes for both new and existing homes have improved somewhat over the past few months, but that doesn't mean that prices will rebound on the same timeline,” notes Miller Tabak’s Peter Boockvar. “The market has reached the point that low prices themselves are finally driving some better demand again. Prices will eventually follow, but in fits and starts, and it’s still very possible that they go lower still.”

One cannot discount distress in the market, especially when we look at markets like Phoenix, Las Vegas and Atlanta. Phoenix and Vegas are seeing huge investor demand, which has pushed inventories lower, while Atlanta is still working through its distress and prices therefore are plummeting at the worst pace in the nation.

With all sorts of government and banking forces distorting the distressed market, either through the $25 billion mortgage servicing settlement, or through various government incentives to keep loans out of foreclosure, it’s hard to say whether this improvement in prices is permanent.

“As servicers implement settlement guidelines, we will see an increase in short sales and foreclosures, as a very large number of borrowers, especially those in PLS [private label securities], won't qualify for [principal] write-downs,” says Josh Rosner of Graham Fisher. “This is especially true for those who have failed to make payments or do necessary maintenance for many months. These problems will be especially felt in the former bubble markets.”

While many analysts, like Ed Stansfield at Capital Economics, believe home prices have, “reached a floor,” they admit there continue to be downside risks, not the least of which is the euro-zone crisis.

“For now, we continue to expect any upturn to be modest. Given the likelihood that the divergence between city-level performances will remain high, further house price gains may well be interspersed by the occasional reverse,” Stansfield says.

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Friday, May 11, 2012

Short Sales Higher, Prices Lower

Buyer traffic is strong, supply of homes for sale is low, and yet home prices continue to defy the usual formula, falling again in March. Prices usually rise as supply shrinks, but demand is still too low to make those historical “norms” compute, not to mention that the type of supply available is largely distressed.

Foreclosures and short sales (when the home is sold for less than the value of the mortgage) accounted for 47.7 percent of sales, in a three month running average measured by Campbell/Inside Mortgage Finance. That’s the 25th month in a row that distressed sales have topped 40 percent of the market.

“With nearly half of the market being distressed, we’re a long way from a return to a normal market,” said Thomas Popik, research director at Campbell Surveys. “Agents responding to our survey say that homeowners with well-maintained properties in good locations are very reluctant to list at today’s prices. That’s why inventory is low—and also why forced REO and short sales are such a big proportion of the remaining market.”

Home prices for non-distressed properties fell 5.7 percent in March year-over-year, according to the survey. Prices for “damaged” REO (bank-owned properties) fell 5.7 percent and for move-in ready REO fell 2.5 percent during the same period. The real sticker shock is in short sales. Prices of those homes fell 14.3 percent from March of 2011.

Short sales have been ramping up of late, as banks attempt to comply with the so-called “robo-signing” mortgage settlement. Those are part of the losses the banks are required to take in the $25 billion deal. Over the past six months, short sales have moved from 17.8 percent of all sales to 19.9 percent, according to the Campbell/IMF survey. They now represent the number one segment for distressed properties.

That share is likely to grow, as the conservator of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA), last week announced it was directing the two mortgage giants to “develop enhanced and aligned strategies for facilitating short sales, deeds-in-lieu and deeds-for-lease in order to help more homeowners avoid foreclosure.” It includes a requirement that mortgage servicers review and respond to short sale requests within thirty days.

Lengthy timelines have long been the biggest complaint in the short sale sector. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac hold hundreds of thousands of distressed loans, and accelerating the process will surely move the numbers up quickly, although the rules don’t go into effect until June 1. The FHFA is requiring the two make final decisions on these sales within 60 days. Previously, short sales could take up to a year and even beyond, with buyers often dropping out in frustration.

“This could put short-term downward pressure on home prices, as short sales by their nature occur more quickly than foreclosures,” writes Jaret Seiberg, analyst at Guggenheim Partners. “That could raise questions about the status of the housing recovery, which could be negative for those with housing exposure. That would include homebuilders, mortgage lenders and mortgage insurers.”

On the plus side, short sales tend to sell at higher prices than foreclosures. It appear, however, that regardless of the FHFA edict, banks are already ramping up the short sales. Some began doing so in the aftermath of the robo-signing scandal, as foreclosures stalled. Even now, foreclosures falling as short sales rise. The good news is that sales of distressed properties are rising, but the headlines will likely focus more on the falling prices, than the much-needed clearing of these homes.

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Sunday, March 18, 2012

Wall Street Comp’s Influence On Luxury Housing Prices

Posted by Jonathan J. Miller -Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 12:54 PM
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As shown in the above Bloomberg chart based on our Manhattan data and the NYS Comptroller’s, Wall Street Comp/person and the Manhattan luxury market show similar trending. Not speaking to causation here.

Bad news for sellers? So the logic follows that with a decline in compensation per person in 2011 – largely from a poor second half 2011 performance, luxury prices could slip a bit in 2012 and perhaps the following year if things continue as they were. I said:

“People are making decisions a year or more down the road because they’re getting their deferred cash,” he said. “We may see a little weakness in 2012,” and “next year could be weaker based on this trend of lower compensation.”

However…

Good news for sellers? Some view Wall Street’s poor performance in the second half of 2011 as an anomaly, and with bond trading now on the rise, bank performance could be better next year (or the same if another second half plunge occurs). If the former occurs then there is more potential for greater Wall Street comp and perhaps better luxury housing market performance. I like the above debt chart because it really illustrates how much the industry fell in the latter half of the year. The WSJ reports:

For the first time in a year, traders and bankers are optimistic about the future following a dark second half of 2011. Layoffs, pay cuts and public outrage against the financial industry undermined morale at banks and securities firms, while economic malaise throttled banking and trading businesses.

Smaller Wall St. Bonuses Mean Cheaper Condos in New York: Chart of the Day [Bloomberg]
Bond Trading Revives Banks [WSJ]


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Monday, February 27, 2012

Fewer Foreclosures Could Mean Lower Home Prices

For years now we have been harping on how distressed home sales put downward pressure on home prices all around them.

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Close to twelve million borrowers are now in a negative equity position on their homes because so many other borrowers were unable to afford their mortgages. The logical assumption would then be that as foreclosures ease, organic home prices will rebound.

But what if the current, unique state of the housing market turns that assumption on its head?

Foreclosure sales now make up a full one third of the market nationally and far higher percentages in states like California, Florida, Nevada, and Georgia.

The supply of these properties has actually been dropping, pushing prices higher, even in the distressed category. There is huge investor and first-time home buyer demand for distressed properties at the low end of the market, and that has helped stabilize prices.

“We believe the distressed part of the housing market has already bottomed,” said Morgan Stanley analyst Oliver Chang on CNBC’s Squawkbox. “The bid that we see from the investor is the reason for this bottom.”

He sees further declines in organic home prices.

Why?

Banks have been very slow to release their repossessed (REO) inventory onto the market, not to mention that foreclosure processing delays have literally millions of properties still sitting in foreclosure limbo.

There is a dwindling supply of foreclosures and rising investor demand. Analysts keep pointing to overall falling inventories, but the current existing home sales pace doesn’t account for that drop.

The fact is that with so much of the supply distressed, and so few organic sellers putting their homes up for sale, the inventory drop is artificially skewed to the recent lack of movement in foreclosures and a crisis of confidence among potential organic home sellers.

Okay, so what about the fact that banks are ramping up the process now, which could put more properties on the market? That could boost supply, were it not for a new government program to sell foreclosures in bulk to large investors.

Chang says over $1 billion in investor capital has been raised over just the past six weeks to take advantage of this new program, and he claims this could add up to 1.8 million jobs. Property managers, renovators, rental agents, he says would benefit from these bulk rental investments.

Mortgage analyst Mark Hanson, however, disagrees.

He claims that individual investors will likely spend more on upgrades/renovations than bulk investors and will then sell to owner-occupants at a higher price, thereby not only stabilizing but increasing overall home values, while also juicing jobs.

“Due to epidemic effective negative equity (not having enough equity to pay a Realtor and put a down payment on a new house) the repeat buyer cohort has been cut in half since 2007. They now make up the minority of national resales," says Hanson.

“Investors and first-time buyers ARE the real estate market," he adds. "Investors and first timers want REO and short sales. Anything done to prevent the flow of distressed property will hurt the volume of existing home sales and all of the economic benefit that comes along with them. An REO-to-rent program will bring about record lows in monthly existing home sales volume. And volume precedes price.”

Hanson believes that when the distressed supply is choked off, by selling REO in bulk to rent, not re-sell, then the only thing you have left is meager organic sales.

“The housing market will implode,” he adds.

Yes, lower supply, in a normal market, would generally mean a return to home price appreciation, but that’s not the way today’s market is working because organic demand is still so weak and is hampered by tight credit.

There is even less demand for mid- to higher-priced homes.

“$200K to $300K is the new normal for home builders,” says Rick Palacios of John Burns Real Estate Consulting. “Since new home prices peaked in 2007, new single-family sales of over $500K have been more than cut in half, dropping from 13% to just 6% of all new home transactions.

The existing home market is much the same, with the bulk of sales and demand in the very low price tiers. It just goes to show that in the historic recovery from an historic housing crash, the usual rules just don’t apply.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012

Boosting Prices So The True Economic Recovery Can Begin

Readers suggested a topic on the latest revelations and proposals from the central bank. “Is it perhaps really true that ‘Nobody could have seen it coming’? It isn’t as though an army of gadflies didn’t try to warn the Fed about where things were headed.’ ‘Newly released transcripts of Fed meetings during Bernanke’s first year as chairman show that, among Fed officials, he often expressed the most concern about housing. But no official, according to the transcripts, recognized the extent of the damage a housing bubble would cause. A year later, the housing market’s collapse helped send the nation into its worst recession since the Great Depression.”

“In September 2006, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, then a Fed official, expressed confidence that ‘collateral damage’ from housing could be avoided.”

A reply, “As long as the banksters have limitless QE to ward off a financial reckoning day for their fraud, hubris and avarice, Timmay’s assertion that collateral damage (for his bankster accomplices) can be averted is largely true. As far as taxpayers, savers, and our children, that’s another story entirely.”

Another added, “This to me is the saddest part of the whole story. When the bust is finally allowed to run its course, most in the populace will be unable to connect the dots. Due to the time lag in reaction to the original actions that brought us here, the current President, Congress, business and civic leaders at that point in time will be blamed and probably demonized. Some maybe even physically threatened as the true architects of this mess slink away scott-free to some Brazilian ranch to ride out any visceral reaction.”

To which was was said, “That is the game. Since you are from NY, note that we have not yet begun to pay for the retroactive public employee pension enhancements of 2000. Neither the unions nor the state legislature want any connection between that deal and rising taxes/service cuts.”

“Moreover, many CEOs who leveraged up in the 1990s were lionized, whereas those dealing with the fallout ever since are considered failures who are overpaid. The reality is they were overpaid in the 1990s, too.”

Another, “I think you are right, except that we are in busting mode and those in office are very reluctant to shatter the illusion. It’s a choice between villified now and revered later or celebrated now and vilified later.”

“Our last President impulsively said ‘This sukker’s going down’ and then his lips were sewn shut. Most people wanted to believe that the nasty bailouts would really save our sorry behinds. Isn’t working out that way. The Pres we have now just smiles and reads from the promtor. I was hoping he would go all JFK. Hasn’t happened.”

One had this, “The very fact that Bernanke was paraded around as an expert on the Great Depression, just before the collapse tells you they knew everything. The fact that Hank Paulson took the job as treasury secretary so he could cash out at the top tax free saving 200 million dollars so he could move into treasuries just before the crash tells you they knew everything that was coming. One look at where they invested would tell you if they knew what was coming.”

And finally, “Is the Fed’s White Paper proposal to use taxpayer-funded GSE losses to revitalize the housing markets merely a ploy intended to further enrich Goldman Sachs? Massive injections of printing press money could work wonders to revitalize the value of shi#@y mortgage assets.”

The Wall Street Journal. “Goldman Sachs Group Inc. recently approached the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and offered to buy a multibillion-dollar bundle of risky mortgage bonds that the Fed acquired in the 2008 bailout of American International Group Inc., according to people familiar with the matter.”

“The New York Fed responded by quietly canvassing a few securities dealers for bids on the bonds Goldman wanted to purchase, seeking competing offers to determine whether Goldman’s offer represented the best value for the bonds, the people said.”

The Sun Times. “When Charles L. Evans talks, people listen. The president and CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago recently spoke to about 200 business leaders at a presentation sponsored by the Lake Forest-Lake Bluff Rotary Club. They came to hear his personal perspectives on the current economy — and one of the topics was housing. Evans said that a more vibrant housing market is one of the key improvements needed to boost home prices and lift the overall economy.”

“He further noted that the Fed had recently been criticized by some Congressional leaders for issuing a special white paper on housing issues, which also suggested potential policy solutions. Whether perceived as contentious or not, Evans felt the paper focused needed attention on solving the distress sale crisis and improving valuations so that true economic recovery could begin.

“The National Association of Home Builders and the National Association of Realtors strongly agree with Evans and other Federal Reserve leaders, too. Both NAHB and NAR endorse specific recommendations in the above-noted white paper — such as loosening mortgage lending and refinancing criteria for credit-worthy borrowers.”

“The overall message is clear. Federal Reserve leaders know it, as do builders and Realtors. Much more must be done to solve the housing crisis — even if those solutions prove politically unpopular. ”

“By Julie Morse, a licensed Realtor in Illinois and Wisconsin.”


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Friday, December 2, 2011

New Home Prices Facing Growing Pressure

Sales of newly built homes are bouncing around a bottom, but prices are now at the lowest level of the year.

The median price of a new home came in at $212,300 for October, which is up from a year ago, but October of 2010 represented the big fall after the end of the home buyer tax credit.

The fact that October of this year saw the lowest price of the year so far is not good news going forward. What this means for the nation's big builders has the analysts split.

"While we continue to believe prices may fall slightly from current levels, we believe pricing is essentially near its trough, and therefore should result in minimal impairment charges for the builders in 2012," writes Michael Rehaut at JP Morgan.

"New home prices are still at a 31 percent premium to existing home prices (vs. 14 percent historically), and given the high level of existing home inventory, we expect pricing pressure to remain," notes Dan Oppenheim at Credit Suisse.

New home sales are still at half the normal historical levels, and they are in for more fierce competition in 2012, specifically, foreclosures.

Banks are ramping up the repossessions again after year-long delays in the process, and that will mean inventories of distressed properties will rise.

These rock-bottom priced properties may or may not compete with new construction, depending on geographical area, but they will bring overall existing home prices down, and that will do nothing good for consumer confidence.

Inventories of new construction are approaching healthy, at just a 6.3 month supply (far better than that of existing homes at an 8 month supply). In raw numbers, they are actually at a record low of 162,000 (or at least since the data tracking began in 1963). Unfortunately, that's not helping prices in and of itself.

"The bigger picture is that house prices are still being weighed down by the huge number of discounted existing homes coming onto the market," writes Paul Diggle at Capital Economics. "New home sales will also be held back by the weaker pace of economic growth that we are expecting next year. Admittedly, at some point activity in the new homes market will have to rebound to reflect underlying population growth. But that is still a few years away yet."

So will the big builders continue to slash prices in order to compete?

Can they?

"Commodity prices remain elevated, and that doesn't give builders much room to cut prices too much without really sacrificing profit margins again," says Peter Boockvar at Miller Tabak.

That's why analysts are being very selective in their approach to the home builders and are "muting" their outlooks for 2012.

"This is shaping out to be the worst year on record for the single-family housing market," says Patrick Newport at IHS Global Insight. "New home sales (data start in 1963), single-family housing starts (data start in 1959) and single-family permits (data starts in 1960) will all set record lows in 2011. Existing home sales may avoid the cellar, but only because a third of them are selling at “distressed” prices."

So what will get housing back on a strong foundation for growth? All the analysts agree: Job growth.

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