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Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project — Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1

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Name: Seth and Allison (plus a dog, and a baby on the way)
Renovation Diary Post: #1
Type of Project: Kitchen/Family Room renovation
Location: Ventura, California
Type of building: Mid-Century, multi-level, single family home

As part of our new Renovation Diary program, we're taking you into kitchens and bathrooms all over the country to meet the homeowners and be a part of the process as these rooms are transformed week by week. In this post, we're introducing you to Seth and Allison, who are in the process of remodeling their kitchen, as well as making significant changes to the layout of their home that will make the kitchen and adjoining family room a lot more useful.

From Allison:

When we purchased this house, we knew that it would require a lot of work. The half-century-old layout is chopped up into many separate rooms, which contrasts with our style and also accounts for a lot of awkward and wasted space. The goal of the renovation is to make better use of space through an open floor plan.

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The area most in need of this update is the kitchen and family room space. The two rooms are currently separated from one another by a wall, and the space also doesn't take enough advantage of the deck and backyard it's connected to. What began as a kitchen and family room renovation evolved into an entire house remodel once we took a good look at the house with our architect and assessed our long term goals for the space.

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In order to reconfigure the existing floor plan, most of the walls in the house are going to be taken down to the studs, and there will be a lot of rearranging. Still, the most exciting part of the design and renovation process is the kitchen and family room space. Our plan there is to open the kitchen up onto what is currently an awkwardly shaped den. This will involve tearing out the existing kitchen and rearranging and reworking the layout, as well as rearranging and replacing windows and lighting.


As one of the most important elements of the renovation is incorporating the outdoor space, we will be replacing an existing sliding glass door off the family room with a two-panel, multi-slide door from Western Window Systems, which disappears into a pocket into the wall when open.


We've planned the renovation so that the bulk of the work will be completed before we move in, which gives us the freedom to completely strip it down and make a huge mess. This turns out to have been an especially good decision now that we've learned we're expecting our first child this summer: all that drywall dust probably wouldn't be the best thing for an expectant mom to breathe in every night. (Even if I did, unknowingly, breathe in plenty while doing the initial demo!)

Thanks, Allison!

Join us next week for #2 of Seth & Allison's Diary.

(Images & Diary Text: Allison Gibson)

More posts in this seriesRenovation Diary: Seth & Allison's KitchenYou are at the first post.You are at the last post.20 comments02.05.13 1:30PMGuestCategories:Renovating,Main,Kitchen,Renovating Projects,Renovation Diary Comments (20) So exciting. There's nothing like the thrill of a new kitchen. You're gonna love the process, even when you have to move your kettle to the garage because your kitchen is taped off. Take ample "during" pictures!!

posted by medusa12120 on 02.05.13 at 01:48PM I've never met an architect that didn't want to turn a remodel into an entire home renovation. Good luck, and I hope you save all of those cool kitchen cabinets for someone on craigslist or a salvage store.

posted by thorndale on 02.05.13 at 01:52PM Their current kitchen is updated compared to ours. Looking forward to taking the same steps, including taking out the wall between our kitchen and dining room.

posted by BruceS63 on 02.05.13 at 02:14PM I love those cabinets!!!

posted by kellieinCA on 02.05.13 at 02:14PM me too I love those cabinets, they are really lovely

posted by alaskanfrenchie on 02.05.13 at 02:21PM Me three! I love most of that kitchen! Everyone has different tastes though.

posted by LokiPokie on 02.05.13 at 02:47PM I loooooooove the before kitchen; I understand everyone has different living standards but I can't wait until this "open concept" style dies. Every time I hear the term I cringe.

I also echo the sentiment of saving the cabinets for someone who will appreciate them. You cannot buy anything new like that anymore, please don't pitch them!

posted by AGameOfYesAndNo on 02.05.13 at 03:17PM It's possible those cabinets were painted with lead paint, given the age of the home.

I look forward to seeing the change in the space- it looked like there was lots of wasted space in the home, especially in the kitchen area. And taking out those upper cabinets could allow for more light to come thru.

Can't wait to see the in progress & the after photos!

posted by tallsarah on 02.05.13 at 03:28PM I like open space between a living room and dining room but think some closure between the kitchen and adjoining room is nice. I personally like sitting down to dinner with no view of what has to be cleaned up in the kitchen later. I also prefer table seating to island seating and many of these remodels open up to make room for an island. Not sure why they are so important.

@thorndale That is so true. My little bungalow is about 900 sq ft on the main floor and when I was doing the bath the architect wanted to take the whole place down to the studs.

posted by jlwmid on 02.05.13 at 03:33PM I think the current kitchen is charming. I hope the new one is somewhat retro.

I also agree with jlwmid. I will never take down the wall between my kitchen and dining room because I don't want to look at dirty dishes while we're eating.

posted by Kathryn1123 on 02.05.13 at 03:45PM So envious of the before. If it were mine, I'd fix the ceiling, replace the flooring, refinish the cabinets, replace the countertops, hood, and appliances, and call it a day. Not a small job, but I'd be happy with the cabinetry and general layout. I can see the appeal of opening up that wall to the family room, but what they have now is already so much more livable than my kitchen. Heck, I just wish my kitchen had that much space and storage in it! I'm sure they'll do a great job with the reno--just chalk me up as jealous.

posted by hyzen on 02.05.13 at 03:46PM Give me four walls and nothing else, and I'd be happy. I love open concept living. The kitchen is a focal point for my home and because it's next to the dining room, it's where a lot of people gather. I like to be able to socialize and work on dinner. Before when the kitchen was closed off, I felt like a servant.

posted by Pi on 02.05.13 at 03:48PM Looking forward to seeing how the progress goes on this.
Of course architects try to get your to do the whole home. The see things differently which is bad and good and can get ridiculously expensive.

posted by MissFifi on 02.05.13 at 04:27PM It breaks my heart that you're getting rid of those cabinets.

posted by ebgb500 on 02.05.13 at 04:40PM I love these renovation diaries, but I want to know where I can see the other 2 I was following (Nesting a nursery and The world's ugliest condo). I never got to see the final products! Where can I find those posts? They're not under the "Renovation Diary" category.

posted by Pevi on 02.05.13 at 04:47PM Sweet little house and looks like it's in good shape. The new floor plan seems a lot better. Couple thoughts though, I don't understand the need for both a family room and a living room when the house is a 2 bedroom/1 bath. If it were me I'd consider using the extra space for a work room that could be converted to extra bedroom. And as long as you are ripping everything out, a powder room would be a good idea. But those are only my own thoughts and I'm not going to live there! You are brave taking this on here on AT.

posted by Parnassus on 02.05.13 at 05:50PM One other thought, those disappearing wall sliding door things are really cool and in all the design magazines right now, but honestly, are they practical? They cost a lot more than sliding glass doors to install (support posts have to be removed). And with the whole wall open, birds, bugs and neighborhood cats can enter your home at will. Also, unless it's usually 66-80 degrees outside, you may not have them open nearly as often as you think.

My house has 3 walls of glass - sliding glass doors lined up with same-sized floor to ceiling windows, with more windows up above. The windows have 4x4 support beams between them. The whole wall is glass and looks the same as the fold away walls when closed. The doors to go in and out are 3' wide sliders. On good days we slide the doors open all the way (one door on each wall). We've had birds, cats, and bugs make their ways indoors too. Anyway, you just might want to think carefully about that disappearing wall. If you can get the same visual effect for half the price, it might be a good spot to save $$.

posted by Parnassus on 02.05.13 at 06:00PM Just curious, but what's the difference between a Family Room and a Living Room?

I don't see a dining room ... I wonder why they don't utilize the family room as a dining room instead, and use the living room, as, well, their living room.

posted by Gwendolyn_ATX on 02.05.13 at 06:20PM I second the idea that a closed kitchen makes the cook feel like a servant. Sure, the guests can see dirty dishes, but I think it's more important that we all get to interact. To each their own on that part, though. As for those tiles on the counters- I have the same ones, and I hate them! They are hard to clean, and cups tip over because they're slightly rounded. Lucky you for having them taken out before you move in. We're saving up for our reno. Good luck!

posted by Paganireland on 02.05.13 at 06:27PM I have an old-fashioned, totally separate kitchen (with a door, even) and I do find myself wishing it were more open. No big remodels in store for this house, but that is a change I would make given the chance. On the other hand, we do have a "living room" and "family room" that are open to each other, and those I wish could be closed off at least sometimes to allow for quiet workspace or a sometime-guest-room.

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@thorndale That is so true. My little bungalow is about 900 sq ft on the main floor and when I was doing the bath the architect wanted to take the whole place down to the studs.","commentable_id":"183724","commentable_title":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1","commentable_site":"apartmenttherapy","commentable_url":"http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/introducing-seth-allisons-kitchen-renovation-renovation-diary-seth-allisons-kitchen-183724","deleted":"f","anonymous_display_name":null,"created_at":"2013-02-05T20:33:12Z","updated_at":"2013-02-05T20:33:13Z","commentable_type":"MovableTypePost","spam_status":"not spam","ancestry":null,"user_display_name":"jlwmid","commentable_title_text":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1"},{"id":"1690049","user_id":"148798","body":"I think the current kitchen is charming. I hope the new one is somewhat retro.

I also agree with jlwmid. I will never take down the wall between my kitchen and dining room because I don't want to look at dirty dishes while we're eating.","commentable_id":"183724","commentable_title":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1","commentable_site":"apartmenttherapy","commentable_url":"http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/introducing-seth-allisons-kitchen-renovation-renovation-diary-seth-allisons-kitchen-183724","deleted":"f","anonymous_display_name":null,"created_at":"2013-02-05T20:45:25Z","updated_at":"2013-02-05T20:45:25Z","commentable_type":"MovableTypePost","spam_status":"not spam","ancestry":null,"user_display_name":"Kathryn1123","commentable_title_text":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1"},{"id":"1690052","user_id":"34433","body":"So envious of the before. If it were mine, I'd fix the ceiling, replace the flooring, refinish the cabinets, replace the countertops, hood, and appliances, and call it a day. Not a small job, but I'd be happy with the cabinetry and general layout. I can see the appeal of opening up that wall to the family room, but what they have now is already so much more livable than my kitchen. Heck, I just wish my kitchen had that much space and storage in it! I'm sure they'll do a great job with the reno--just chalk me up as jealous.","commentable_id":"183724","commentable_title":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1","commentable_site":"apartmenttherapy","commentable_url":"http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/introducing-seth-allisons-kitchen-renovation-renovation-diary-seth-allisons-kitchen-183724","deleted":"f","anonymous_display_name":null,"created_at":"2013-02-05T20:46:05Z","updated_at":"2013-02-05T20:46:05Z","commentable_type":"MovableTypePost","spam_status":"not spam","ancestry":null,"user_display_name":"hyzen","commentable_title_text":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1"},{"id":"1690055","user_id":"158135","body":"Give me four walls and nothing else, and I'd be happy. I love open concept living. The kitchen is a focal point for my home and because it's next to the dining room, it's where a lot of people gather. I like to be able to socialize and work on dinner. Before when the kitchen was closed off, I felt like a servant.","commentable_id":"183724","commentable_title":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1","commentable_site":"apartmenttherapy","commentable_url":"http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/introducing-seth-allisons-kitchen-renovation-renovation-diary-seth-allisons-kitchen-183724","deleted":"f","anonymous_display_name":null,"created_at":"2013-02-05T20:48:08Z","updated_at":"2013-02-05T20:48:08Z","commentable_type":"MovableTypePost","spam_status":"not spam","ancestry":null,"user_display_name":"Pi","commentable_title_text":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1"},{"id":"1690102","user_id":"189859","body":"Looking forward to seeing how the progress goes on this.
Of course architects try to get your to do the whole home. The see things differently which is bad and good and can get ridiculously expensive.","commentable_id":"183724","commentable_title":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1","commentable_site":"apartmenttherapy","commentable_url":"http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/introducing-seth-allisons-kitchen-renovation-renovation-diary-seth-allisons-kitchen-183724","deleted":"f","anonymous_display_name":null,"created_at":"2013-02-05T21:27:26Z","updated_at":"2013-02-05T21:27:26Z","commentable_type":"MovableTypePost","spam_status":"not spam","ancestry":null,"user_display_name":"MissFifi","commentable_title_text":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1"},{"id":"1690112","user_id":"492241","body":"It breaks my heart that you're getting rid of those cabinets.","commentable_id":"183724","commentable_title":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1","commentable_site":"apartmenttherapy","commentable_url":"http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/introducing-seth-allisons-kitchen-renovation-renovation-diary-seth-allisons-kitchen-183724","deleted":"f","anonymous_display_name":null,"created_at":"2013-02-05T21:40:11Z","updated_at":"2013-02-05T21:40:11Z","commentable_type":"MovableTypePost","spam_status":"not spam","ancestry":null,"user_display_name":"ebgb500","commentable_title_text":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1"},{"id":"1690120","user_id":"502554","body":"I love these renovation diaries, but I want to know where I can see the other 2 I was following (Nesting a nursery and The world's ugliest condo). I never got to see the final products! Where can I find those posts? They're not under the \"Renovation Diary\" category.","commentable_id":"183724","commentable_title":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1","commentable_site":"apartmenttherapy","commentable_url":"http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/introducing-seth-allisons-kitchen-renovation-renovation-diary-seth-allisons-kitchen-183724","deleted":"f","anonymous_display_name":null,"created_at":"2013-02-05T21:47:48Z","updated_at":"2013-02-05T21:47:49Z","commentable_type":"MovableTypePost","spam_status":"not spam","ancestry":null,"user_display_name":"Pevi","commentable_title_text":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1"},{"id":"1690163","user_id":"248322","body":"Sweet little house and looks like it's in good shape. The new floor plan seems a lot better. Couple thoughts though, I don't understand the need for both a family room and a living room when the house is a 2 bedroom/1 bath. If it were me I'd consider using the extra space for a work room that could be converted to extra bedroom. And as long as you are ripping everything out, a powder room would be a good idea. But those are only my own thoughts and I'm not going to live there! You are brave taking this on here on AT.","commentable_id":"183724","commentable_title":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1","commentable_site":"apartmenttherapy","commentable_url":"http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/introducing-seth-allisons-kitchen-renovation-renovation-diary-seth-allisons-kitchen-183724","deleted":"f","anonymous_display_name":null,"created_at":"2013-02-05T22:50:14Z","updated_at":"2013-02-05T22:50:15Z","commentable_type":"MovableTypePost","spam_status":"not spam","ancestry":null,"user_display_name":"Parnassus","commentable_title_text":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1"},{"id":"1690170","user_id":"248322","body":"One other thought, those disappearing wall sliding door things are really cool and in all the design magazines right now, but honestly, are they practical? They cost a lot more than sliding glass doors to install (support posts have to be removed). And with the whole wall open, birds, bugs and neighborhood cats can enter your home at will. Also, unless it's usually 66-80 degrees outside, you may not have them open nearly as often as you think.

My house has 3 walls of glass - sliding glass doors lined up with same-sized floor to ceiling windows, with more windows up above. The windows have 4x4 support beams between them. The whole wall is glass and looks the same as the fold away walls when closed. The doors to go in and out are 3' wide sliders. On good days we slide the doors open all the way (one door on each wall). We've had birds, cats, and bugs make their ways indoors too. Anyway, you just might want to think carefully about that disappearing wall. If you can get the same visual effect for half the price, it might be a good spot to save $$.","commentable_id":"183724","commentable_title":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1","commentable_site":"apartmenttherapy","commentable_url":"http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/introducing-seth-allisons-kitchen-renovation-renovation-diary-seth-allisons-kitchen-183724","deleted":"f","anonymous_display_name":null,"created_at":"2013-02-05T23:00:58Z","updated_at":"2013-02-05T23:00:58Z","commentable_type":"MovableTypePost","spam_status":"not spam","ancestry":null,"user_display_name":"Parnassus","commentable_title_text":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1"},{"id":"1690181","user_id":"354842","body":"Just curious, but what's the difference between a Family Room and a Living Room?

I don't see a dining room ... I wonder why they don't utilize the family room as a dining room instead, and use the living room, as, well, their living room.","commentable_id":"183724","commentable_title":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1","commentable_site":"apartmenttherapy","commentable_url":"http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/introducing-seth-allisons-kitchen-renovation-renovation-diary-seth-allisons-kitchen-183724","deleted":"f","anonymous_display_name":null,"created_at":"2013-02-05T23:20:12Z","updated_at":"2013-02-05T23:20:12Z","commentable_type":"MovableTypePost","spam_status":"not spam","ancestry":null,"user_display_name":"Gwendolyn_ATX","commentable_title_text":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1"},{"id":"1690187","user_id":"460684","body":"I second the idea that a closed kitchen makes the cook feel like a servant. Sure, the guests can see dirty dishes, but I think it's more important that we all get to interact. To each their own on that part, though. As for those tiles on the counters- I have the same ones, and I hate them! They are hard to clean, and cups tip over because they're slightly rounded. Lucky you for having them taken out before you move in. We're saving up for our reno. Good luck!","commentable_id":"183724","commentable_title":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1","commentable_site":"apartmenttherapy","commentable_url":"http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/introducing-seth-allisons-kitchen-renovation-renovation-diary-seth-allisons-kitchen-183724","deleted":"f","anonymous_display_name":null,"created_at":"2013-02-05T23:27:36Z","updated_at":"2013-02-05T23:27:36Z","commentable_type":"MovableTypePost","spam_status":"not spam","ancestry":null,"user_display_name":"Paganireland","commentable_title_text":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1"},{"id":"1690200","user_id":"324380","body":"I have an old-fashioned, totally separate kitchen (with a door, even) and I do find myself wishing it were more open. No big remodels in store for this house, but that is a change I would make given the chance. On the other hand, we do have a \"living room\" and \"family room\" that are open to each other, and those I wish could be closed off at least sometimes to allow for quiet workspace or a sometime-guest-room.","commentable_id":"183724","commentable_title":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1","commentable_site":"apartmenttherapy","commentable_url":"http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/introducing-seth-allisons-kitchen-renovation-renovation-diary-seth-allisons-kitchen-183724","deleted":"f","anonymous_display_name":null,"created_at":"2013-02-05T23:53:53Z","updated_at":"2013-02-05T23:53:53Z","commentable_type":"MovableTypePost","spam_status":"not spam","ancestry":null,"user_display_name":"angelinethebaker","commentable_title_text":"Introducing Seth & Allison's Kitchen Renovation Project Renovation Diary: Seth & Allison's Kitchen #1"}] }); comments.render(); comments.refresh(); });(function(d, s, id) { var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; if (d.getElementById(id)) return; js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/all.js#xfbml=1"; fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs);}(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk')); var _comscore = _comscore || []; _comscore.push({ c1: "2", c2: "14868646" }); (function() { var s = document.createElement("script"), el = document.getElementsByTagName("script")[0]; s.async = true; s.src = (document.location.protocol == "https:" ? "https://sb" : "http://b") + ".scorecardresearch.com/beacon.js"; el.parentNode.insertBefore(s, el); })(); (function(s, p, d) { var h=d.location.protocol, i=p+"-"+s, e=d.getElementById(i), r=d.getElementById(p+"-root"), u=h==="https:"?"d1z2jf7jlzjs58.cloudfront.net" :"static."+p+".com"; if (e) return; e = d.createElement(s); e.id = i; e.async = true; e.src = h+"//"+u+"/p.js"; r.appendChild(e);})("script", "parsely", document);

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